How excited are you?
>> Um, I'm incredibly excited. Um, I'm g
moved slightly picture. I'm incredibly
excited by this because they're going to
release um they're releasing the
anthology book on the 14th of October.
And then they're going to be releasing
the CDs and the vinyl on the 21st of
November. And then on the 26th of
November, um Disney Plus is going to uh
stream the new anthology. And there was
eight original parts and now there's
going to be nine because um there's a I
hope uh a sort of bean feast at least an
hour of extra um material from 1995
starring Paul, George, and Ringer that
we haven't seen before. So really really
excited about that. So, uh, fourth a new
fourth anthology compilation. Um, h how
will it differ, do you think, from
what's gone before?
>> Well, what's going to happen is that the
fourth anthology in terms of music, um,
they've used some takes they haven't
used before. They've got George Martin's
son, J Martin, to work on the project.
So, he will tweak it a bit and add a
little bit, sprinkle a little bit of
fairy dust onto it. and even more sort
of magic and um fairy dust will be
sprinkled on the um on the actual uh TV
program because Peter Jackson who did
the fabulous job with um Get Back is
going to is going to work on the fourth
anthology. So, we're going to get a
really um we're going to get a fabulous
um piece. I think if Pet if Peter
Jackson's track records anything to go
by, it's going to be wonderful.
So there's no um exact track listing
that hasn't been revealed, has it? So do
we actually know if there's anything
that's unheard?
>> Um there's the tracks the the tracks as
they are haven't been heard. They're
outtakes of, you know, quite famous
Beatles tracks that haven't been heard
before and they're going to be um
remixed and re-released in that form. So
there is there's going to be material
that we haven't heard before, which
again just adds to the excitement.
>> And what do you think what do you put
down to the enduring popularity of of
the Beatles? Not released anything in in
donkey's years and and don't exist as
they were. But why do you think people
are still so fascinated by anything the
Beatles have done?
>> Well, Jillian, it's just it it's it's
such a a fascinating question. I spent
uh two 300 pages writing about this in
the Beatles and fandom. I think first of
all their music was folk music which
means people's music. So it was very
very popular and even if they got
pretentious and wrote about politics or
they wrote about their strange chemical
adventures, it didn't really matter
because their songs were always couched
in standardized 3 minutes um records
that were really highly accessible to
people. So that's one of the reasons I
think their music will go on for three
or 4 hundred years because it's
accessible because it's people's music
because it's folk music. Um also um
there's lots of there's the sort of the
personal stories of the four Beatles and
their lives are very important as well
but there's a lot there's a grand
narrative beyond the Beatles which makes
them really which makes them really
important. I mean the Beatles came along
when there was a consumer boom in the
1950s. They were having a access um I
suppose nent globalization. They were
having access to music from all over the
world. Um three of the Beatles, John,
Paul and George were scholarship kids
who went to top grammar school. So they
had a very good educations including um
as well as being musical. They would
have been taught the romantic poets on
their GCSE exams. Um also they were a
boomer generation that were better
educated, live lived longer. Um you mean
you got the NHS with um which which came
in Beavenon bought in in 1948 and the
Beatles were healthy. They were ready to
go. Um basically the grand narratives of
history were in place for them. Also the
UK had been in the national grid since
um 1933 as well. So electricity wasn't
everybody's houses. Also satellite
links. They did the first satellite link
in 1967. Also, I would say that they're
part of the um they're also they very
quickly became part of the national
narrative in the UK. I mean, just go to
Liverpool now. It's like Beatles
Disneyland. There's um Abby Roads is if
you go up to the Zebra Crossing, it's on
a 247 live stream. People are there. If
you go,
>> the tourists the tourists are there
trying to take that iconic photo every
single day. Richard, we must leave it
there. There's so much more to be said,
but we've run out of time. Thank you
very much for uh sharing your expertise
with us. Thank you.